H.E. Omar Sultan Al Olama talked with Sam Altman the CEO of Open AI, in the world Governments summit 2024 about large language models and AI systems and Chat GPT , he started by asking, what drives him to create these systems and why did Sam embark on this journey, and why Sam doing what he is doing? Sam said “ look we have a long way to go and a lot to prove that I think if we can get if we can fulfill our mission, if we can even get close to it the benefits to humanity of making intelligence broadly available, inexpensive and sort of as a tool to let Humanity build the future I think is quite remarkable I think abundant intelligence and closely related to that abundant energy can unlock a future that is sort of difficult for me to even imagine how good it could be, and I think right now we don't realize how limited we are by the limits on intelligence and how expensive it is and how difficult it is, but if you imagine a world where everyone gets a great personal tutor great personalized medical advice we can use these tools to discover all sorts of new science cure diseases help the environment discover, new physics who knows what else, I think that's pretty remarkable and also just speaking personally I think this is like the most exciting Quest Frontier I can imagine being on.” And H.E. Omar Sultan Al Olama asked him “How close are we to the vision if you're going to talk about the drug Discovery curing cancer using not chat GPT but large language models to try to solve some of the biggest physics questions, chemistry questions, biology questions of Our Lives how far off are we?” Sam said “So the honest answer of course is we really don't know.” you know this is new science we're discovering new things all the time the rate of discovery is incredible the rate of change is incredible but it it's sort of hard to know exactly how far we have to go what I will say though is we hear all the time from scientists who say that our tools make them much more productive and they don't have an easy way to quantify that but they say it's substantial we also don't know how much that difference you know if you could make every scientist on Earth twice as productive what that would mean for the rate of scientific discovery because this is all so new this is like you know a little bit more than a year old but we'll find out.” And H.E. Omar Sultan Al Olama said ”so I'd like to just touch upon the UA's experience here because we did talk about this when we were together in person a few weeks ago, we've seen that the deployment of large language models and CHAT GPT in specific actually did not increase cheating rates in universe it was actually a great enabler for students for professors we've seen as well that when the government Embraces these systems and talks about them positively the public utilized them in the right way so we launched a guide to help people understand how to use these tools effectively and how to be more productive with them as well as probably put some guidelines against what they shouldn't be used for what is the best government application that you've seen, what's something that you think is a model for other governments to follow in this domain?” Sam said “So first of all you touched on something that you sort of glossed over, but I want to spend a second on it, because I think it's informative to what's happening which was about education and cheating in schools and when chat GPT first came out , you know the whole world had a moment of adjustment but the first thing that happened is at least in the United States in my experience school districts were falling all over themselves to ban chat GPT the fastest and declare it, you know this existential threat to education and other people got concerned later but it really started with education, Education was also the place It reversed the quickest teachers and school districts embraced it and said you know, hey this is part of the future, this is something that we all want, this is going to help our students learn better and I really believe this will be the most, this already is and certainly will be one of the most transformative Technologies for Education we've had in recent times and I think that leads into your question. Well about governments because there are all of these things that people were afraid of or maybe are still afraid of about LLM in AI but governments who embrace it and say let's find ways to help this deliver services for our citizens better, let's think about ways we can reform how the government does its job how people fill out forms or do whatever they need to do how the government helps provide education Healthcare as we discussed earlier that seems to be working really well and the governments that are saying let's lean in, let's experiment with this let's embrace it, lets you know make it available to our government to our citizens that I think is the best thing to do right now and just say like Hey we're all figuring this out together we're all writing the rule book together but let's lean in and try it And H.E. Omar Sultan Al Olama asked him “ there's a thought that says you have chat gpt3 which blew people away you had 3.5 which was a huge Improvement you have gpt4 that also took us to the next level and you're working on GPT 5, the proliferation of the technology is still limited so we're still using it in very specific domain very specific use cases we haven't really seen the proper applications that are world changing, why are we continuing to push across the bigger the better you know the larger models that we're seeing right now what's the logic behind that can you explain that to us Sam Said “well I think for that exact reason as you said we have not yet seen as much world changing application as we'd like maybe we've seen some, there are a lot of people who use these services and get value out of them but not as much as, we'd like and I think the reason is the current technology that we have is like that very first cell phone with the black and white screen that can only display those like numbers and you know it just didn't do much but there was enough in there you're like, I can make a call that's cool and at the time that seems great and then it took us, I don't know how long from that but many decades from that to the iPhones, we have today and the them we have today is incredible and it took a massive amount of scaling in all these different ways to get there but we have now is like unimaginable at the time of those like first primitive cell phones and I think that's what we have to push forward we're at this barely useful cell phone but people still like making phone calls, it turns out and if you can make a better way for them to do it so they can go walk around the world while they do it sure that's great but that's not what we want to deliver we want to deliver the iPhone 16 or 15 or whatever the current one is and what's the timeline to reach the iPhone 16 from the current Motorola that we have you got to give us you got to be a little, you know it took the world a while to do that last time around so give us some time but I will say I think in a few more years it'll be much better than it is now and in a decade it should be pretty remarkable.